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Committed

Posted by: Caroline on: July 9, 2009

Talking to a couple of friends online last night I had an epiphany. Neither of the lovely ladies was particularly happy, and the root of both their unhappiness was, typically, a man. To clarify, these are two very beautiful, very intelligent, funny, independent women. The menfolk in their lives were screwing them around, making things unclear and more complicated than necessary, and generally acting like eejits.

I know that this is not relationship behaviour particular to a specific age group, but looking at my friends, male and female, there seem to be a lot more minefields in the long-term relationship field within my peers than there were, say, for our parents. Over the last 20 months I have heard more tales of ended longterm love affairs and jilted brides than had I read Harlequin’s entire back catalogue (yes, I exaggerate – it’s my job!)! I cannot speak for the rest of the world, but Britain appears to have bred a generation of men who cannot committ.

And it isn’t their fault!

I say that we have bred these menfolk, because that’s the truth. We nurture the bigger, better, faster stronger myth – we serve everything in bite-size chunks, whether it’s TV shows broken down for advertising or the advertising itself, the micro-bite news-sharing of twitter or KFC popcorn chicken! We preach that nothing sticks – and nothing is worth sticking for – we’re always moving on to the Next Big Thing.

And thanks to this faster-than-a-speeding-bullet culture, everything is given a shelf life. Install Firefox more than six months ago? Bah – you need v3.5! New iPhone for Christmas? Please, let us upgrade you! Women in the media are nipped and tucked, paid to lose or gain weight at the drop of a hat (who could forget the rumours of the female cast of Ally MacBeal being told to lose weight to make Calista look less skinny?), airbrushed and slimmed down to within a hair’s breadth of reality – all of which leads men to believe that “perfection” does actually exist. We sit back in our Bridget Jones big knickers and miracle suits and laugh smugly at previous generations who altered the perception of their true shape through whalebone corsets, hoops and bustles, never even recognising our own hyopcrisy. Men have been trading their women in for younger models for centuries (I’m looking at you Henry VIIIth!), but in a post-feminist generation we’re moving away from the blame game and back towards accepting it. Something about that doesn’t quite fly…

Maybe it’s evolution. Maybe we’re evolving in the direction of so many in the animal kingdom, where the male roams free, sowing his wild oats, while the females collectively raise their young. It works for lions…

But I can’t help but wonder whether it’s coincidence that this generation of non-committal men happens to arrive in conjunction with the first lab production of human sperm. I understand that this experimentation is an exercise in overcoming infertility and NOT a question of “producing human life in a dish” – but that doesn’t mean the possibilities aren’t there. There’s something dreadfully masculine dystopic about the whole set-up…

So, I’ve been wondering whether it isn’t about time we let the lads loose – turned them back to the wild and let them go do their hunting, gathering and sowing. In many ways, we’ve emasculated them enough – by coming out of the kitchen and stepping all over their hob-nail-booted toes (it’s hardly their fault if their pretty little footsies aren’t as tough as we thought they were!), as well as by scientifically rendering their very being obsolete. Turn ‘em loose, I say – they get their way, and I’m sure we could find a way to get ours when necessary, what with the roaming oat-sowing and all!

(To clarify, as I type this I’m seeing some sort of Jurassic Park type set up with electric fences and on-site Doctors and man-specialists to keep an eye on of the well-being and fertility of our “free-roaming” captives… naturally without the unexpectedly deadly turn of events requisite to Crichton’s thrillers.)

Meanwhile, we could place the emphasis firmly back on the most important relationships in our lives – our families, yes, and especially our girl friends. Afterall, they’re the ones who are with us through thick and thin. Somewhere along the way we’ve lost a simple truth: men come and go, but girlfriends last a lifetime. It’s time we re-realised that fact.

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13 Responses to "Committed"

Good points. I realise that I too am guilty of trying to upgrade/improve (hidden under guide of development). I continually seek new recipes and clothing combinations even though there is nothing wrong with what Icook or wear currently. Why can’t I just sit back and let it happen naturally?

It has been happening for years (balme the Victorians!) but these days we take an much more selfish individual approach to it. We believe we are worth it and deserve something more than we have. Never mind the impact on friends, family, local neighbourhood and global community.

As for letting the lads loose – I have trouble getting mine off the sofa and away from the wonderful world of online gaming. But he does get to be macho there and run around with guns!

Oh goodness – me too! I’m constantly looking out for what’s next – I get bored sooo easily! And it should be noted that parts of this post are written with tongue firmly “in cheek” – hence the sweeping generalisations!

But actually, you’ve hit on something there. The “I deserve it” argument I’ve heard a lot recently, and I’m not convinced it’s always vindicating. I mean, there are a lot of things that I deserve – but at the expense of friends, family, local neighbourhood and global community? Do they deserve the negative effects simply because I deserve the positive?

As for lads – sounds like you’ve got one of the good ‘uns. If we all stuck to gamers (assuming we didn’t want their attention too often for ourselves) womankind would be a happier race! :D

Hey Caroline, great post! I do disagree a bit though…

While I agree that we – society – seem to be constantly striving for smaller and faster from everything from news to phones, why assume that only men are applying this to relationships too? Perhaps we have bred those menfolk, but we’ve bred the womenfolk too. So why don’t they subscribe to the same principles?

As for the belief that ‘it isn’t their [men's] fault?’ Of course it’s their fault! Sometime I think that by generalising gender (‘men are hard-wired to do x, women to do y’) we let people get away with behaviour. What wouldn’t be acceptable for the individual somehow becomes acceptable for the gender.

It’s not about men not wanting to committ. It’s about men screwing about because they can, because they don’t have to take individual responsibility for it, because their girlfriends will fret and blame themselves.

Hey Milly – how you doing chick?

Good points – I can always rely on you for a jolly good rebuttal. Are you on Dyalogues – we’d be great on there! :D

I know I shouldn’t limit this to the menfolk, but sweeping generalisations are so much more amusing than gender-balanced analyses! ;)

There are plenty of chaps who don’t fall into this stereotype and plenty of women who do. You’re right, of course, that gender generalisation allows people to live up to their stereotypes, but I also think that society moulds our actions and thoughts, and that our generation have been taught to expect more. Not everyone is influenced to the same extent – exposure, upbringing, etc have a great impact – but the myth is perpetuated with every airbrushed image and every cell upgrade.

There is definitely truth in your last sentence – people (see – no gender-specifics!) do feel they don’t have to take responsibility, probably because there will always be soft-touches like me willing to let society take some of the blame… and at the same time their partners will without doubt blame themselves – if nothing else for not living up to society’s perceived expectations…

Oh, what tangled webs we weave!

I’m not really sure what to say to this post.

In the past, I have run into men with commitment issues – I had one guy who refused to even acknowledge that I was his girlfriend, even though we were going on dates, staying over at each other’s houses, and neither of us were interested in seeing anyone else. But heaven forbid that I should call him my boyfriend! I ended up breaking it off because I couldn’t cope with his immaturity.. I am a pretty old fashioned girl in some ways, and wasn’t happy with an ‘open relationship’. I think if I guy wants to be with me, then he wants to be with me – and that means he shouldn’t be afraid to acknowledge that publicly!

There are exceptions though.. I certainly don’t think that James is afraid of commitment! He asked me to move in with him within weeks of us getting together, and asked me to marry him only a few months after that! I don’t think either of us have, or ever will, regret the commitment that we made to each other in December. And he is a child of divorcees for goodness sake!

I don’t think we should make excuses for men’s fear to commit, or say that we should just be putting up with it & letting them go. If a guy doesn’t want to be with you & genuinely doesn’t love you or anything anymore, then, sure, it’s not right for either of you to be together anymore. But if he does care for you & is just afraid of the commitment, then we as women should try & help them through that, not just throw our hands up and tell them to get back to the wild.

Blaming it on ourselves and letting them get away with screwing around is not the answer either. We should be looking at the individual issues that there are with a guy, his behaviour, the relationship – before generalising it as “all men are shits and can’t commit to anything” and letting the relationship go. Relationships, love, commitment – none of it is easy.. I just think that women are more prepared to face up to the fear themselves and to dismiss men as being the weaker sex as far commitment is concerned.

Any long term relationship is hard work, and maybe because women (in general) have a better support system in place to help them through the tougher periods, they are better prepared to try & work through the tough patches. Whereas men must be hellish lonely when there is something wrong with a relationship – it isn’t perceived to be natural or macho, to discuss relationships with their mates. For women it is perceived to be a natural thing to ‘gossip’ with the girls, and that can help us vent about our issues, or get new perspectives on the matter. Men don’t have that, and that sounds lonely to me!

You say you want to place the emphasis on families.. but I can’t imagine my family without my father.. or my new future family without James. I don’t think I want to imagine a family without a father, as my own was always such an important & integral part of mine.

Wow, I just realised what I huge reply I wrote! I guess I rambled a bit too much cos I didn’t know exactly how to get my points across!

For someone who wasn’t sure what to say you sure had a lot to say, hon!! :P

I am, obviously, making wildly sweeping generalisations here – and as I said to Milly, with my tongue firmly in my cheek for the most part! That’s not to undermine the serious questions of societal moulding, social pressure and responsibility, and individual action.

It’s funny you should bring up the “child of divorcees” point, as it’s one I considered including but decided I’d be better leaving out. It’s a line that was used in my Big Break Up 18 months ago, specifically “I don’t want to end up in a crummy bedsit only seeing my kids at weekends in 10 years time like my Dad did”. I’m also the child of divorcees, and I can honestly say, while I’m sure I could use them as an excuse should I have wanted to screw around or otherwise go off the rails, I made the CHOICE not to. We do have choices – it sounds like your husband made his well.

From a real-life relationship advice point of view you are, of course, entirely right. Relationships are hard work. If someone doesn’t want to be with us, we should just let them go without blaming ourselves (always easier said than done, though, isn’t it?!) And yes, women are often far better equipped with support networks than men are – though I’ve never considered the male perspective as lonely before… I know my brothers go to each other for relationship advice, but maybe that’s where it ends – inside the family unit?

Speaking of which, as for the male aspect of family unit, and in all seriousness, I couldn’t agree more. I don’t know where I’d be without my brothers – they’re my rocks. And my proof that not all men are bad guys.

Which raises an important point. We all do well to remember that even truth is objective.

Hey chica well you’ve certainly started an interesting dialogue! And I thoroughly enjoyed your post, even if I didn’t agree with all of it; “eloquent” is the word I think. Remind me what you do for a living? Cxx

Why thank you sweets!

You know, even I don’t agree with most of what I wrote.
But I do so enjoy writing it! :D xx

Ok. As one of your 2 rocks, I would like to produce a small hurdle for you.
Skipping over that most of my lot are bastards, and moving into the Jurassic Park style machines, where you engineer sperm while we freely roam in the fields, I have a question.

Who will run the machines? Using some statistics of the population in engineering, what percentage are female :

Civil Engineering = around 15% of all Civil Engineers are female
Electrical Engineering = 5% are female engineers
Mechanical Engineering = 5% are female engineers
Chemical Engineering = 80% are female engineers
Computer Engineering = 50% are female engineers
Electronics & Communication Engineering = 30% female engineers
Aeronautical Engineering = 2% – 3% are female engineers
Industrial Engineering = 3% are female engineers
Sanitary Engineering = 2% are female engineers

Now with the exception of the chemical engineers who will obviously have the plan to make the sperm, who will maintain the machines….. we will all be out in the fields sowing but not reaping, which seems a litle unrpoductive in terms of my time usage. So, I am going to further your debate by asking about the split between the stereotypically male and stereotypically female minds, and the jobs that they go into and how this will effect the plan…

Plus, men and women handle acute stress differently. When researcher Larry Cahill showed them slasher films, men fired up the amygdale in their brain’s right hemisphere, which is responsible for the gist of an event. Their left was comparatively silent. Women lit up their left amygdale, the one responsible for details. Having a team that simultaneously understood the gist and details of a given stressful situation helped us conquer the world.

(http://www.indiastudychannel.com/resources/14675-Male-Female-brains-are-Different.aspx)

So, without one or the other, world collapses :-p

Have you seen children of men? Just a bit more food for thought (Laurens comment this one).

This is why I love you, little brother – you ground me! :D

And I love the way you pick on the most ridiculous aspect of my argument and elaborate upon it as if it were the crux of the whole theory!

Actually, I’ve changed my mind. You are a rock – around my neck. You with your scientific ways – you just drowned me!

xx

Your wish is my command so I got back here to give my rumble about the suject :)
I have been married for almost 5 years now.It has been a process.We married because we want to be togheter and we will work on it although sometimes is not easy.
Most part of the guys I knew back home wanted to get married because it is some kind of status, you go to university, than you find a job and marry your girlfriend because you’re a sucessfull man.It comes in a package…and it doesn’t have anything to do with love or wanting to build a relationship.As easy as you get married you can get divorced, so there is not real commitement in this way of acting(and yes, most of them end up divorced)
When I was dating I was most of the times disapointed of the poor quality of men I found.I always was a book girl and dreamt of a man who could be my knight in shining armour on his white horse and most of the times I just found the horse.
A couple of generations ago women had their essential place in the household and were respect for that if for nothing else, but right now we have a generation of men who think they have no use for women because they wont abide by the standards of previous generations and, frankly, are easier to have one night stands and leave them.
Whose fault this his I don’t know, maybe of everyone of us .
I believe that men and women should have equal oportunities in everything, wich might sound very modern of me. But my private teory is that in the end man want women that challenge them, from what I’ve seen the more high maintenance a woman is the more thoughtfull and caring their men are.
I’m sure that your friends are excellent girls and their guys couldn’t see this they are the ones that are missing something important, the girls will find love, I’m sure.
In a weird level I do like the idea of the Jurassic Park kind of thing. Could we pick wich one we wanted when it pleased us ;)

I like the Jurassic Park idea too. Can I pre-order 3 small triceratops and 1 mid-size stegosauraus please?

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